Let’s Applaud Jordan Hasay?

Sam would write a better post than me on this topic but since I’m pure like the Garden of Eden, and not tainted the Nike Oregon Project, I should be able to give a clean perspective.

Yesterday was the Boston Marathon and 2 members of the Nike Oregon Project put on dominating performances for Americans. Jordan Hasay finished her first marathon ever in 2:23 which was good for 3rd place. It was the fastest debut by an American female ever. The fastest time ever by a woman in a marathon is Paula Radcliffe with a 2:15.25. The fastest time by an American is 2:19.36 by Deena Kastor. The 2.23 flat time posted by Hasay is good for the 180th fastest marathon by a woman ever (I heard that Boston isn’t a legal course for whatever that is worth).

As I was watching the coverage yesterday, I was really impressed with Hasay. I remember watching her a bit in college for Oregon and she was top talent, but not finishing 3rd in Boston so whatever she’s been up to is either intense work or PED’s. Considering Rupp got 2nd and is partaking in the same training, they are up to shenanigans.

Why shenanigans? Once again, I’m not an expert on this subject but here’s what I’ve read. Nike’s Oregon Project is a group created by Nike to promote American Long Distance Running. They are using elite coaching, revolutionary training and the use of air thinning technology. The group of athletes on the squad is no joke. Centrowitz, Farah, and Rupp, are all Olympic medalists. Suguru Osako just got 3rd in Boston yesterday. It’s pretty clear that whatever these athletes are doing is working.

Now here is where the questions start building around head coach Alberto Salazar. “In June 2015, Salazar was named in a joint BBC Panorama and ProPublica investigation into doping allegations. This involved testimonies from various athletes and people associated with Salazar about alleged microdosing of testosterone and prednisone at the Nike Oregon Project. Salazar declined to be interviewed for the programme, but denied any wrongdoing, saying in a statement that the “allegations your sources are making are based upon false assumptions and half-truths in an attempt to further their personal agendas”

So when you see an American hottie like Jordan Hasay competing with women from countries like Kenya and Ethiopia, who are renowned for their past efforts, there is a bit of suspicion. It’s sad that we have to draw these conclusions when people of our country perform feats of this nature, but out of the ordinary circumstances cause out of the ordinary questions like, “how did this happen?”

I visited the Let’s Run Forums and found some great comments regarding her race:

On the course

How is Boston a major marathon? How many of the world’s best marathoners were in that race? Boston is a hobby jogger’s race with some overpaid Americans thrown in so the hobby jogger set don’t complain too much about all the Africans winning everything.

On the probability of doping

Probably about 7% (Rupp), and 2% (Hasay). Seems like NOP bends the rules all day long, but maybe doesn’t break them severely. Also, Nike has the money to dope and not get caught (e.g., Lance Armstrong)

On why people like Hasay and not Rupp

She is relatively outgoing and articulate and seems comfortable expressing her relationship to the outside world. Rupp is probably a bit introverted, maybe a bit on the autistic spectrum. He seems mostly comfortable expressing support for those closest to him, his family and Salazar. He doesn’t seem collegial with fellow competitors. One could just call that arrogant I suppose, but it could also just be an introverted personality. He isn’t easy to root for compared with Hasay, and certainly Meb or Abdi or Ritzenhein.

So there you have it. Jordan Hasay is probably legit and will hopefully represent USA without any implications. All that being said, why are the hot ones always the most talented? I think it’s great for the sport to have a role model like Hasay compete in these world class settings. Maybe she’s not the cream of the crop yet, but I enjoyed watching the race and was happy to support her. It’s hard not to like her style and running. Sam, anything to add?

By | 2017-04-18T10:27:37+00:00 April 18th, 2017|Running|1 Comment

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  1. Sam Stortz April 18, 2017 at 10:54 am

    Here we go:

    The Olympic gold medalist from 2016 in the women’s marathon (from Kenya) was busted for doping two weeks ago. So when you say “when you see Jordan Hasay competing with women from countries like Kenya and Ethiopia, who are renowned for their past efforts, there is a bit of suspicion. “, that’s actually not the case in the running community. More would bet that Edna Kiplagat (yesterday’s winner) is doping than Hasay. Kenya and Ethiopia are being exposed for having horrible testing procedures and more and more are being busted. This “culture” and “genetic advantage” that we always believed the East Africans have is partially true, but they’re certainly not above the drugs.

    Hasay has always been a fan favorite. She was an insta-phenom as a freshman in HS and people dubbed her the next Mary Decker (google her if you don’t know who that is). She semi-failed to meet those huge expectations and has struggled the past few years on the track, so seeing her succeed in this way on the roads makes a lot of people happy since, as we said, she’s easy to root for. Personally, I don’t believe she’s on anything illegal, though as the LR person said, NOP is always pushing the boundary. I’m a fan of Hasay and was happy to see her do well, though I don’t find her all that attractive.

    Rupp is different. Rupp was a phenom too, but he was training under Salazar (one of the best coaches in the world) from his HS days. He’s always viewed as the “special treatment” guy and he’s not very personable (there are multiple examples of this). Americans don’t really like Rupp but, more or less, he’s the best we got, so we have to root for him. Most would think that if Hasay isn’t doping, Rupp isn’t either, but with Salazar, many suspect that he treats Rupp different from the rest of the group (remember: special treatment).

    Without getting too far into it, Mo Farah may be the most egregious case of them all (besides Bolt obviously, but he has no ties to NOP). As a betting man, I’d put money down that he’s on something that’s either A) already illegal or B) hasn’t been fully discovered yet but when it is, it will be illegal.

    Also, Paula Radcliffe’s 2:15:25 is a disgrace of a world record, Bolt-esque. No one has even come close, not even the doped up East Africans.

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